By Mollee Francisco
Apologies abounded Monday night, but they weren’t enough to appease residents of the Points West neighborhood.
Several members of the Chaska City Council apologized that Points West residents weren’t notified earlier about specific development plans for a community park, including a baseball field, just to the east of them.
The council then voted 4-1, with Councilor Jay Rohe dissenting, to proceed with amended plans for Veterans Memorial Park.
“It takes a community effort to provide facilities for our children, our residents,” said Councilor Gino Businaro. “I don’t have a better answer (for where to put a baseball field) than what administration came up with.”
“We have to represent the entire community,” said Councilor Bob Lindall. “Not just your neighborhood.”
Points West residents opposed the baseball field element of the park with concerns of noise, light, litter and increased traffic in their neighborhood.
“We don’t like crowd noise,” said resident Christian Ward. “We don’t like lights. We don’t like drawing a certain type of crowd into the neighborhood on a regular basis.”
Mark Fancher, of the Chaska Area Baseball Association, said that a lack of facilities in Chaska has meant that many youth baseball games have to be played out of town. Fancher estimated that “half to three quarters” of their games are played outside of Chaska.
“How come my neighbors and I have to take it for the team?” asked resident Taylor Hubbord. “What about us? What do we get? How come we have to take sacrifices for everyone else?”
May approval
The council first approved plans for the park in May 2007. It would be located between Victoria Drive and new Highway 212 and called for a veterans memorial on the east side of the park and a lighted baseball field on the west side, closest to the Points West neighborhood. A parking lot and playground would be located between the two large elements.
Points West residents contacted the council in October in the hopes of blocking the plans, with a petition signed by a majority of area residents. In late November, the council voted to stop work on the park in order to send plans to the Park Board for review and comment.
The Park Board reviewed the plans earlier this month and recommended approval of modified park plans which included relocating the parking to “promote use” of Victoria Drive instead of private neighborhood streets. The amended plans also moved the ball field 30 feet northeast to create “more separation” from homes and create “better interaction between the field and parking.” Parking was upped from 66 to 80 spots and the playground area was tripled in size.
“You have been heard,” Mayor Gary Van Eyll told Points West residents Monday night. “We have changed some things and we’ve improved (the park).”
Rohe said that he understood the need for facilities in Chaska, but also acknowledged that he “probably wouldn’t want the lighting” in his backyard. He said discussion had also left a question in his mind as to whether or not this was the right location.
But despite his objections, Rohe saw the plan proceeding.
“This is gonna happen,” he said. “I don’t see things changing. I see three, four, or five votes here.”
Notification
What the council did hope to change was notification policies for developments on city-owned land.
“I think we all agree we made a mistake,” said Van Eyll.
“I feel the beginning of the process didn’t work the way we wanted it to work with communication,” agreed Rohe.
The council directed staff to look into policy changes including the possible adoption of a posting policy that would allow for signage indicating future development sites.
Grading on the Veterans Memorial Park site is expected to continue this year and could be completed as soon as April.


The City Council voted 4 to...
Back to page topThe City Council voted 4 to 1 last night to approve the revised park plan, citing an urgent need to reduce the number of away games baseball teams currently must endure for lack of local facilities.
As a citizen of Chaska, I am proud to have been chosen to sacrifice my peaceful lifestyle, and freely give up the estimated $30K in the value of my property for such an important and noble cause. I had only hoped the City Council would have seen fit to grant us some form of additional assessment that could be tied to the baseball field, so we could feel even more fulfilled in our philanthropy. I, for one, am excited to be such an important part of the tireless effort on the part of our great city to relieve the unbearable burden our baseball leagues face in not being able to host more than 40% of their games. It truly is a tragedy, and I’m grateful to be allowed to help in this manner. I feel their pain. Growing up on the farm in Illinois, we were constantly subjected to long car rides with our parents when my siblings and I were in sports. My God, we had to drive and drive and drive some more to get to nearly all our games. Sometimes up to 150 miles round-trip! I know what it’s like first-hand, believe me. I would not wish it on anyone, and so this injustice must end. I am prepared to fight tooth and nail to see that community baseball prospers in Chaska - at any cost. I only wish I could do more to help.
Mr. Mayor, I apologize for speaking up at the meeting. I honestly don't know what I was thinking, having an opposing viewpoint and voicing it to you and the city council. You had every right to cut me off, shout me down and belittle what I was saying. For that, I am sorry. I also wanted to say that as a citizen of Chaska, I appreciate a strategic thinker in the Mayor's office. Your eagerness in pushing for a vote to approve the ballpark as an urgent matter was admirable, as it will no doubt give you time for the issue to blow over before you begin your campaign for re-election. Kudos to you, sir.
Mr. Rohe, How dare you come to our defense, or even give us one precious second of thought to our concerns? Don't you realize that the city must maintain its high standards when governing? Caving into what mere citizens want will only undermine the city's authority. You can't just go around listening to the mob, don't you know that? And shame on you for bringing common sense into the issue!
Mr. Pokorney, your attempt at suggesting that a vote by the CC on this issue was not needed shows remarkable efficiency. Why take the risk of losing to a vote? It is not difficult for one to see the reasons for your long tenure as City Administrator.
Mr. Redman, you are a master at your craft. I am sure the people who work with you on a daily basis, and throughout your career, have nothing but great thing to say about you. Congratulations on such an important and remarkable feather in your cap. You certainly earned it.
Ms. Skinner, If you need any help whatsoever in scheduling baseball teams this season, please don't hesitate to ask. I understand the unbearable difficulties in such a task, and want you to know that I'm there for you.
To the citizens of Chaska, come election day, I want you all to remember what a great job our mayor has done in handling these petty upstarts.
Christian Ward
www.cebellah.com
Oh for crying out load,...
Back to page topOh for crying out load, you’ve created a website for this? Are you kidding me? You seem to have an excessive amount of time on your hands. Not all Points West residents share your position, just so you know...
95% of Points West residents...
Back to page top95% of Points West residents signed the petition to block the ballpark. When did I make a claim that all of them did?
You think a website is overkill? Returning phone calls and answering individual e-mails would have been far more time-consuming, don't you think? The website was essential in keeping everyone in the neighborhood informed as to what was happening. And for your information, it took about 20 minutes for me to construct and post this website.
Now that you mention it, since I design websites for a living, I would like to take this opportunity to offer assistance to anyone in Chaska who believes they could benefit from having a site such as ours in their efforts to challenge city hall.
By the way, HeraldReader, if you are a Points West resident, it looks like you'll be getting plenty of opportunities to cry out "load" during the baseball season. Just don't get any on us.
One more point I would like...
Back to page topOne more point I would like to make:
$350K was approved for the construction of this ballpark. If you combine the estimated loss in property values due to inverse condemnation for just the homes that will face or have a direct view of the ballpark, the total amount would likely exceed the value of the ballpark.
Wow! You MUST have an...
Back to page topWow! You MUST have an excessive amount of time on your hands. Let's time you to see how fast you can respond to this one. I was right the first time, this IS a load! Sometimes the highway cuts through your farm and you're no longer out in the middle of nowhere. Sorry. Move to Nimrod if you need some small town livin'.
This is a good point. The...
Back to page topThis is a good point. The city had serious failures with process and communication throughout the planning of Veterans Park. Failures they've been forced to admit were mistakes and should be embarrassed by (I know I am). Concerned citizens use 21st (or 20th even) century methods to challenge those failures. They should move to Nimrod or Tenney because they clearly have too much time on their hands and their farms got cut in half.
Dear Christian Ward, I'm so...
Back to page topDear Christian Ward,
I'm so sorry for my mistake earlier; I don't know what I was thinking. Nimrod is probably a bit too urban for you. Maybe you should try Tenney Minnesota instead.
Sincerely,
HeraldReader
I have one more comment for...
Back to page topI have one more comment for you Christian Ward.
When I stated, "Not all Points West residents share your position, just so you know...” you asked the question, "When did I make a claim that all of them did?"
I found the answer in your beloved Star Tribune article:
http://www.startribune.com/local/west/14444641.html
I believe it reads:
... "The whole neighborhood doesn't want this to be built," said Christian Ward, who lives across the street from the site. ...
Thanks for your time, I’m done wasting mine.
Can someone please explain...
Back to page topCan someone please explain this quote from Mr. Ward? "We don't like drawing a certain type of crowd into the neighborhood on a regular basis." To me, it seems to imply that a youth baseball field will attract criminal, or at least nuisance, element or person. While I understand the grumbles of ill-informed (by the City Council) residents, this sort of fear seems grossly overstated and reeks of hyperbole. It's not as though the City is proposing building a boarded up liquor store on the site, it's a baseball field, used by the youth of Chaska. As for noise issues, I'm sure you'll hear people cheering on the children of our community, I can think of worse to listen to.
To answer the question to...
Back to page topTo answer the question to the above comment by "eskelton", I think the quote was taken slightly out of context. The proposed field is a men's baseball field with 90 foot baselines. This field can be used by adult teams as well. The "type" of crowd I think he was referring to was adult leagues with alcohol involved. The way the field will be situated in the neighborhood would allow alot of exposure to children in the yards and streets of the neighborhood by drivers. I really don't have to paint an extensive picture to what could happen when you mix alcohol, driving, and small children near the roads.
Also, to answer the bullying comments of "Herald Reader" , I myself find that it is worth taking the time to change something that will greatly affect my quality of life. The front of my house faces this ballfield, I will not be able to enjoy the stars as I sit outside on many upcoming summer nights because of the flare from the lights, I am worried about the increased traffic on private roads that I help pay for from association dues, and the future difficulty in selling my home with a field of that porportion so close. I will take the time to try to uphold my quality of life, who are you to say otherwise?
I see. I had no familiarity...
Back to page topI see. I had no familiarity with this issue before reading this article and just thought that comment was a bit over-the-top, given that there could be men's, or women's, rec league games, I can understand the concern.